Four key takeaways from Derbyshire election debate

Georgia Roberts
Political Reporter, BBC Derby
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Derbyshire's party leaders gathered for a debate at Masson Mills in Matlock

Six leaders standing for election to Derbyshire County Council outlined their views on a range of topics during a debate.

Social care, the state of the county's roads, tourism and trust in politicians were among the issues discussed during the event hosted by BBC Radio Derby.

The candidates were also asked who they would be willing to do a potential deal with in the event no one party gets a clear majority on the council.

The leader of an independent party was also included, reflecting the wide range of independent candidates standing across Derbyshire.

Those who took part were:

  • Joan Dixon, Derbyshire Labour leader
  • Ed Fordham, Derbyshire Liberal Democrats leader
  • Gez Kinsella, Derbyshire Greens leader
  • Barry Lewis, Derbyshire Conservatives leader (and current leader of Derbyshire County Council)
  • Stephen Reed, Derbyshire Reform UK candidate
  • Philip Rose, Amber Valley Independents leader

Here are four key takeaways from the debate.

Clashes on social care

Numerous council-run care homes and day centres have closed in recent years in Derbyshire.

It is an issue that has sparked fierce campaigning among families whose elderly relatives have been left facing disruptive moves or paying for expensive private provision.

When asked about the future of social care in the county, divisions emerged.

The Liberal Democrats' Ed Fordham called on the Conservatives' Barry Lewis to apologise, calling the handling of the issue "shameful".

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The Liberal Democrats' Ed Fordham clashed with the Conservatives' Barry Lewis on social care funding

Lewis insisted he was proud of his record on social care and said his party had done "the best we can" given pressures on the authority's budget.

But Fordham said the Conservatives had "starved our care homes of money", leading to closures.

"We spend money badly and he knows it," he added.

The Green's Gez Kinsella agreed with the criticisms and accused Lewis of refusing to take the views of local people into account when deciding to close care homes.

Reform UK's Stephen Reed described the situation as a "crap sandwich" and held it up as a key area where the party would deploy its anti-waste agenda.

Labour's Joan Dixon conceded there was no money pledged from central government to improve the local picture, amid calls from Independent Philip Rose for Whitehall to boost funding.

Dixon added that Labour wanted to look at alternative "cooperative or not-for-profit" models of care.

Deal or no deal

While some national leaders have been keen to rule out the prospect of their party entering into formal coalitions, Derbyshire's leaders indicated they may be open to some form of deal in the event no party wins an outright majority on the council.

Stephen Reed, for Reform UK, dismissed a formal coalition but suggested something more informal would be acceptable.

"We'll work with any party to do the right thing. We won't form a coalition, but we'll work with all the parties," he said.

Barry Lewis, for the Conservatives, did not rule anything out, saying the party would be open to anything in the spirit of "getting things done".

Joan Dixon, for Labour, added: "Let the dice roll where they will and then I will think about that depending on what happens on 2 May."

The Liberal Democrats, however, said the party would refuse to work with Reform UK, whilst the Greens said they would look at it "issue by issue".

Trust in politicians

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The debate was chaired by BBC Radio Derby presenter Ian Skye (centre left)

Trust in politics and politicians was another topic raised during the debate.

The Greens' Gez Kinsella said he had been struck "more than ever before" by the number of people he had come across during the campaign who are "turned off" by politics and and drawn to parties like Reform UK, who he claimed would pose "risks" to the county if they gained power.

Reform UK's Stephen Reed was challenged about a Reform candidate in Derbyshire who it is understood is under investigation for posting a racial slur online.

He refused to comment but insisted support for Reform was "enthusiastic".

Independent Philip Rose, who was among several local activists to have recently left Reform UK, was challenged on the fact he had been suspended by the Conservatives in 2022 for social media posts that were accused of being anti-semitic.

He denied any wrongdoing, stating it was "difficult to support Israel when they're killing so many Palestinians".

Israel and the Palestinian group Hamas have been at war since early October after Hamas fighters launched an attack, killing about 1,200 people and taking more than 250 hostages. This triggered a massive Israeli military offensive in Gaza.

Rose also dismissed Reform UK leader Nigel Farage referring to him and other former party members in Amber Valley as "bad apples", claiming Farage had "gone to the left".

Plans to tackle potholes

The current leader of the council, Barry Lewis, conceded that Derbyshire's roads had got worse in recent years, as set out in government data, but denied the county was the "pothole capital" of the UK, as opponents have often claimed.

But he would not pledge the roads would improve if the Conservatives held on to power on the council, blaming a "flatlining" of investment from central government.

"We actually spent £50m last year trying to get our roads in order," he told the panel, and said "first time fixes" had improved.

The Green's Gez Kinsella said more focus needed to go on planned maintenance rather than reactive "slapping concrete into a hole".

Labour's Joan Dixon said driving through Derbyshire "felt more like an episode of Top Gear, you're rally crossing around potholes".

Whilst she would not pledge the roads would improve if Labour regained control, she said the government was boosting funding.

You can find a full list of candidates standing in your local area here, or on Derbyshire County Council's website.

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